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    August 17, 1842

    Vol. III.—No. 20. Boston, Whole No. 68

    Joshua V. Himes & Josiah Litch, Editors. Office No. 14 Devonshire Street, Boston


    Letter to Rev. Mr. Dimmick



    Here, too, is the fulfilment of 2 Timothy 2:11, 12. “For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him; if we suffer, we shall also reign with him.” I ask, can it be proper to explain the first resurrection by the case of Elias and John? You give a person the same latitude of the rest of the Bible, that you have taken of the first resurrection, and he may prove any thing, and every thing, just as his fancy may lead him.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.1

    On page 35, you object to a literal resurrection, because, as you say, “It makes the state after the? too gross, too much like our present state, to be consistent with other representations of the Bible on this subject.” Then you go and cover about three pages, with the opinions of different persons in different ages of the world, in order to make your objection good. Now if you are arguing against Mr. Miller, or “the new theory,” as you call it, why did you not give his views, at least some of them? Was it because by so doing you could not make your objection good? If in what you have said here, you mean to give Mr. Miller’s views, you have most grossly misrepresented them. There is scarcely a sentence in all that you have said under this head, which Mr. Miller believes, except two or three quotations from the Bible. Mr. Miller’s views of the state of the righteous after the? are such as John presets in chapter 21, with which, I presume, all the righteous will be satisfied.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.2

    Then on page 42 I read the following: “The failures which have occurred in attempts to reckon times and seasons, would seem sufficient to deter any man from adventuring far in those paths.” And how far may he adventure? As far as you have on page 9 in favor the opinion that 1000, or 365,000 years “is to pass previous to the coming of Christ”? Your argument here against fixing on ‘43 for Christ to come, will apply with equal force to any other time. Of this you seem to be aware, hence do not, as most commentators have done, fix on any definite time for that event. You, however, prefer one of the longer periods; rather than think but two years, you would choose to think that three hundred and sixty five thousand years will expire before Christ comes. Here is the trial. Mr. Miller has fixed on a time too near us. We are not ready for that event. Had he fixed on A. D. two thousand for the commencement of the millenium, and on the end of one thousand years from that time, for the coming of Christ, no one in these days would have thought that Matthew 24:36 was an objection to the time. In that case this objection would have lain in obscurity until the time had nearly expired, when, with the last generation, it might come up with as much force as it now has.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.3

    To show us the failures in reckoning “times and seasons,” you have quoted Acts 5:36, 37. Now I am unable to see how Theudas, and Judas of Galilee, are any more like saying that Christ will come in ‘43, or at any other time, than the “Magna Charta” is like the “Declaration of American Independence.”HST August 17, 1842, page 153.4

    You next refer us to Thomas Munzer, of Germany, in the sixteenth century. Well, what did he do; that has any bearing on this point? Why, he believed that “Christ would soon come, and set up the heavenly Jerusalem on the earth.” And you say, “Christ did not come as he had predicted,” but “the world went on as before.” Then we must never believe that Christ will soon come. Therefore, those who live near the close of your three hundred sixty five thousand years, must not think that Christ will ever come, because Thomas Munzer thought so, in his day, and Christ did not come. So those who shall live at that time must set the time forward, one thousand, perhaps three hundred sixty-five thousand, rather than think it is “nigh even at the door.”HST August 17, 1842, page 153.5

    Under this head you have introduced an extract containing the names of several persons, who about the year 1700, supposed they were living on the very verge of the millenium, and who prophesied to that effect; “but their millenium did not come.” This will apply with as much force to a great part of the Christian world as to Mr. Miller. And must no age ever believe that they are living at such a time? The last example or failure you have given us is a. Mr. Edward of New York, who fixed on a certain day in 1812 for the end of the world. Now the import of all this argument is, that because several persons have failed in their opinions concerning an important event, no other person should form any opinion concerning it. Is this argument?HST August 17, 1842, page 153.6

    Again, on page 44. “If the millenium is to be after the judgment, and be ushered in by that great scene, no mortal can tell its commencement. It is in vain to say, that the angel told Daniel. The Savior has assured us that there is not an angel in heaven who knows anything about it.” Now, sir, unless you know more than any angel in heaven, you have in this short sentence entirely demolished your whole discourse, text and all; for you have labored through the whole, to show us how much evidence you have that it will not come for a long time. Now admitting that you have produced one particle of evidence to sustain your position, then the above assertion is not true. If we cannot know any thing about the time of an event thus far, how can we know to the contrary. It may come today, and if we have any evidence that it will not so come, then we know something about it. It therefore follows that all your arguments to prove that the end of the world is not yet, must be given up, or they must stand in opposition to the above assertion. And if you say that you did not mean to imply that we could know nothing about it, then I ask, How much may we know? Where shall we draw the line, beyond which we cannot go?HST August 17, 1842, page 153.7

    May we have evidence to believe that it will not come under a 1000 years, yea, 365,000 years, and then must we stop? Is this the time beyond which we cannot pass, with our knowledge of that event? Mr. Miller thinks that Christ will come in 1843, and he thinks he brings evidence from the Bible to sustain his belief. On the other hand, you think he will not come then, nor at any other time within a thousand years or more; and you think that you find evidence in the Bible to sustain your belief. Now Mr. M. is no more; sure that Christ will then come, than you are that he will not. Here you both stand on the same footing, with this exception; he believes God has revealed something about the time, and he gives evidence accordingly; but you believe that God has given us no revelation about it, yet you go on to prove from the Bible that the event will not come for a long time. And in order to overthrow Mr. Miller as to the “new theory,” you have put language into our Savior’s mouth which he never used.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.8

    The time of the coming of Christ you seem to think is like the time of a person’s death, unknown. Suppose this true, what would you think if a man should undertake to prove that the day of his death would not come within ten or twenty years, or that it would be a long time before he would die?HST August 17, 1842, page 153.9

    But how does your assertion agree with the whole verse from which your text is taken? And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world, for a witness unto all nation and then shall the end come. Now you say the Savior has assured us that their is not an angel in heaven that knows any thing about it. Has not the Savior told us that the end shall come when the gospel shall have been preached in all the world, for a witness unto all nations? And if so, has he not told us something about the time of the end? The point now under consideration, is not whether the Savior has told us every thing about the time of his coming, but whether he has told us any thing about it. If he has told us that he will come when a certain prophecy shall have been fulfilled, then certainly he has told us so much about it; and if we may live to seethe fulfiling of that prophecy, then surely we may know something about it. And do not the angels know as much about it as we do? If so, and you mean that your assertions will hold true in all time, have you not made the Savior plainly to contradict himself? I leave it with the “candid” to judge.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.10

    The Savior says, Matthew 24:32, 33, “Now learn a parable of the fig tree: when his branch is yet tender and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door.” Here the Savior, instead of assuring us that we can know nothing about it, has expressly told us how we may know it is nigh, even at the door.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.11

    But what has our Savior said about the precise time? Matthew 24:36, “But of that day and hour knoweth no man; no, not the angels of heaven.” We will now suppose he meant that the time would never come, when, prior to that event, any man or angel would know the day or hour. Now the question is, how long time did our Savior mean to include in that day? Did he mean that no man would know the year, and if so, why not say ten years, yea, ten thousand years? But he did not mean to say that we could not know within ten thousand years. Why not? because he says, when ye see all those things, “know ye that it is near, even at the doors;” and surely we cannot know that it is so near, if we cannot know when it is within ten thousand years. Then we must come back from this long time, and in doing so, where shall we stop, short of a literal day? We therefore see that “the day” in this place, which you have made to include all time, is limited by the context. So much for your assertion, that Christ has assured us there is not an angel in heaven that knows any thing about it. By the preaching of the gospel to all nations, as here intended, you say, “we are to understand, doubtless, the evangelizing of all nations.” If this is what our Savior meant, then ho meant to say that when all nations are evangelized, then the end shall come. Now so far as you have proved that we shall have a millenium in this world, you have proved, that when all nations are evangelized, the end will not come, the Savior’s declaration to the contrary notwithstandiug.HST August 17, 1842, page 153.12

    I believe I have noticed every point in the latter half of your discourse, which has any bearing on the subject: and some points, I confess, which have no bearing on the subject.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.1

    And now, what shall I say of your arguments? Should I qualify them by some appropriate words, I might be charged with using “hard names and opprobrious epithets,” which charge “with some, may be good argument; with others not so.” I might be reminded that such words do not become those who are expecting the coming of Christ will soon take place; which would be equivalent to saying that such a belief is calculated to have a good effect on the mind, or that if a person does not believe this, it is not so much matter what he does say. Yet I must say, that when a man, in order to sustain his cause, resorts to misrepresentation, and to argument which refutes itself, I conclude he has a poor cause to sustain. I believe that every writer against Mr. Miller, who has come to my knowledge, has done this. I am, therefore, more and more convinced that nothing can be said, which will show the “new theory” to be an “airy castle.”HST August 17, 1842, page 154.2

    Though I have not passed a word with Mr. Miller, either directly or indirectly, upon this subject, yet to me it is plain, that the reason why he did not in his review go through your discourse, was that he thought it unnecessary. He went far enough to give a fair sample of your arguments, and then stopped. And as you have taken the advantage of his omission, I have thought it duty to notice the remainder. Were it necessary, and did my limits permit, I might here present the overwhelming evidence from the Savior and apostles, that the theory of a millenium in this world, (first hatched, I believe, in the brain of Thomas Munzer, or one of his associates, and new modelled into nearly its present form by Daniel Whitby, D. D. who died A. D. 1726,) has no foundation in the Bible. But having said already more than I intended, I will close.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.3

    That your discourse will have a general circulation I doubt not. It will be sought after and read with interest, especially by all classes of persons who love this world more than they love Jesus Christ. With very many of those any thing, no matter what, that pretends to show that the coming of Christ is a great way off, the farther the better, is taken for sound argument.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.4

    Now, my dear sir, I hope you will be led to see what you have done; and before the Lord shall make his appearance, be able to undo some of the evil which your book is producing. Yet there must be some who will do as you have done; for if all believed that the day of the Lord was at hand, they would be looking for it, so that day could not come upon all the world as a snare. Hence the Bible could not be fulfilled. I therefore submit it all to Him who has said, “I will overturn, overturn, overturn it, and it shall be no more until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.”HST August 17, 1842, page 154.5

    Yours, for the truth. J. S. W.



    From the Refutation of Dowling’s reply to Miller, on the 70 weeks of Daniel 9:24.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.6

    Mr. Dowling says, “Archbishop Usher places this event (the decree) in the year B. C. 457. Mr. Miller who adopts this date, seems to be ignorant of the fact that the real date of the birth of Christ, is four years before the common era, and that Christ was crucified A. D. 29, and not not A. D. 33.”HST August 17, 1842, page 154.7

    But is Mr. Dowling “ignorant of the fact” that the same sort of evidence (astronomical calculations) which determines Christ to have been born four years before the vulgar era commences, also proves him to have been 37 years of age at his death, instead of 33, the commonly received age? We should not suspect from any thing in his book, that he was acquainted with the fact; but yet a fact it is. So that the time of his death was where our vulgar era fixes it; and the four years are taken from the 457 B. C. and added to 33, Christ’s supposed age at his death, which would make him 37 at his death, and leave 453 B. C. instead of 457. Then 1810 year more will make out 1843 of the vulgar era.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.8

    Ferguson, the astronomer, has given us the method of obtaining the proof. See Miller’s Life and Views, pp. 244—248.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.9

    The time of Christ’s death is obtained as follows:—He was crucified on Friday, and at the time of a Jewish passover. The passover was always held during the first full moon after the vernal equinox. But a paschal full moon would not happen every year, nor only once in many years, on the same day of the week. There are, however, but three or four years’ dispute about the time of Christ’s death, within which time there was but one paschal full moon on Friday. That event was 1,808 years last April. 38This was written in 1841. This is confirmed by Phlegon, a heathen historian, who has recorded a great eclipse of the sun to have taken place the same year; but astronomical calculations prove that there could not have been an eclipse that year, nor for many years before nor after that year. It must, therefore, have been the supernatural darkness at Christ’s death.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.10

    But it may be asked how the time of Christ’s death is determined. It is as follows:—Josephus, in giving a history of the last sickness of Herod, who commanded the children of Bethlehem to be alain at Christ’s birth, records an eclipse of the moon to have taken place during that sickness. From Christ’s death to that eclipse is 36 years. One year more, added for the age of Christ at that time, will make him 37 at his death. He was baptized, and commenced his public ministry at the age of 30. Luke 3:33.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.11

    Daniel 9:25. “Know therefore and understand, from the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem unto Messiah the prince, shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks.”HST August 17, 1842, page 154.12

    Unto Messiah”—not to his death, but to his coming as the Messiah, which was when he was baptized, and the Holy Ghost, in a bodily shape like a dove, came and rested on him. A voice came from heaven, which said, “Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.” John bare record, this is the Son of God If he ever came, and was publicly announced as the Messiah, he was so then, when he was about thirty. He was then led up into the wilderness, and was tempted of the devil; and after John was cast into prison, Jesus came into Gallilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and saying, “The time is fulfilled,” etc. Mark 1:15. What time? Is there more than one time named in the Bible for the coming of Messiah, and is not that the 69 weeks? If any predicted time was fulfilled, it was that; if there was no special time accomplished, he spoke at random, and meant nothing. If the 69 weeks were fulfilled at the beginning of his ministry, according to his own declaration, and Christ was, as is astronomically proved, 37 at his death, then he confirmed the covenant with many for one week; and in the half part of the week, the last half or end of the week, he ended all the typical sacrifices by his offering the great antitype. Then we are not driven to the alternative of bringing in either John or the apostles to help him in the work assigned for him personally.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.13

    Again: the events predicted to take place within the 70 weeks could not be accomplished until the death of Christ; for the last of the series was the anointing, or consecration of the Most Holy, or Holy of Holies. But the Holy of Holies, consecrated by Christ, was the holiest of all in heaven itself, which he sprinkled with his own blood in our behalf. The events there enumerated, (Daniel 9:24,) must have taken place, according to the prediction, within the seventy weeks; and they could not come short of it; and be filled up sooner, without frustrating what was determined; for it would be as much a failure for them all to be done three or four years before the time, as to exceed it by that time. The prediction is definite—“seventy weeks are determined.” Where can an error be found in this argument? Most certainly Mr. Dowling will not presume to deny that the same authority which dates the birth of Christ four years before A. D. 1, also proves him to have been 37 at his death; and hence our chronology is practically correct; and the end of the world, according to Mr. Miller would not, as Mr. Dowling asserts, have been in 1839, but will be in 1843.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.14

    Literalist Views


    Messrs. Editors,—Having myself been long desirous to see a brief statement of the Second Advent views of our brethren who look for the speedy return of the natural Jews to Palestine, and believing that most of your readers are desirous of the same, I send you the following synopsis of their belief for publication, if you think best. In justification of this unusual course, it is necessary to say that these brethren, professing to be literalists, have had a magazine, called “The Literalist,” published monthly for two years, and a semi-monthly paper, called the American Millennarian,” for some months past, and all for the purpose of propagating their own views on Christ’s second coming, return of the Jews, Millenium, etc. It is a fact, also, that in all these publications, and in the many books written for the fame purpose, there is understood to be nothing like a brief abstract of their leading views on the various departments of their whole theory, nor any thing by which the common reader can obtain a full knowledge of what their views are, on the whole subject of Christ’s second Advent.HST August 17, 1842, page 154.15

    The article, at my request, has just reached my hand, for copying, from a brother who states that he took the synopsis directly from the lips of some of those in your city, who hold the doctrine of the Jews’ return; and that, afterwards, they had made such corrections in it as they pleased, on its being presented to them for that purpose; so that it is now understood to be given as revised by themselves. Coming as it does from a few individuals, it is supposed, of course, not to be the precise views of those in general, who advocate the Jews’ return to Jerusalem. But since it is the first and only synopsis of the kind, which I have seen in writing, I must give this, or none at all; and wherein it shall differ from the brief views of our brethren of the ‘Jews return,’ it is hoped that they will avail themselves of the privilege of immediately making such brief amendments to it us will make it to harmonize with their leading views in general, on Christ’s second advent, and the Jews’ return. The article is as follows:HST August 17, 1842, page 155.1



    Of the Views entertained by some of the Second Advent of the Messiah to this World.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.2

    1. They believe that the 2300 days of Daniel’s vision will be fulfilled A. D. 1843; and that the Savior will then appear in person, in the clouds of heaven, with all his saints.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.3

    2. That the living saints will then be caught up to meet Christ in the air.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.4

    3. That the wicked will then be destroyed.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.5

    4. That the righteous ones [separate from the saints and the wicked] as a third class, are to escape from among the nations then to destroyed, including, also, a remnant of the Jews.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.6

    5. They believe that these righteous ones and the remnant of the Jews then to escape destruction, are to live upon this earth and remain yet in the flesh, having the Saviour personally with them, during the millennium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.7

    6. That Christ, at his coming, will set up his throne at Jerusalem.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.8

    7. That all the nations remaining in the flesh, and the saints who have become immortal are to go up once a year to worship at Jerusalem, during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.9

    8. That the immortal saints, as kings and priests unto God, are then to rule over the mortal inhabitants of the earth, and to judge the nations, and rule them with a rod of iron, during the millennium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.10

    9. They believe that the earth is to undergo no change, except a moral and religious one, at Christ’s coming.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.11

    10. That a short time after the Savior has set up his kingdom at Jerusalem, there is to be the great battle of Armageddon, or, in other language, the battle of Armageddon is to commence at the coming of the Savior, and will probably continuo 30 or 40 years during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.12

    11. That then the earth is to yield her increase more abundantly, while its people will build houses and inhabit them, and plant vineyards and eat the fruit of them, during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.13

    12. That these people are then to multiply and increase as the sand of the sea, none dying less than a hundred years old, during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.14

    13. They believe that this population of the earth, after Christ has come, will increase in knowledge, because their infants will come into the world with minds more easily taught, during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.15

    14. That during the millenium all will know the Lord from the least to the greatest.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.16

    15. That the ferociousness of beasts will cease, the serpent become harmless, and all shall lie down together, during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.17

    16. That Christ, and the Apostles on their twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel, will be literally seen by all the mortal nations, as well as by those who are immortal; and that this will continue one thousand years.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.18

    17. They suppose that next after this one thousand years the devil is to be let loose a little season to deceive the mortal nations, when they, (the deceived, or fallen away, together with the wicked dead, then raised,)will come up on the breadth of the earth, to encompass the camp of the saints, which is literal Jerusalem, and will make their last efforts against the saints, when fire will come down from God out of heaven and consume them.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.19

    18. Then, as they understand, this earth is to be burnt over, and death and hell cast into the lake of fire, with the devil and all the wicked.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.20

    19. Next, they believe that the New Jerusalem, previously suspended over this earth, will come down from God out of heaven, when all the saints will enter therein to reign with Christ eternally.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.21

    20. They believe that all the prophecies are to be fulfilled literally; therefore they admit no spiritual interpretation, believing that all the scriptures are perfectly understood by them; and that they know they are themselves right.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.22

    21. They discard the idea that the door of mercy will ever be shut, for they say that mercy endureth forever.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.23

    22. And yet they believe that the door of the glorified house of David will be shut, meaning that those who remain longest on earth in the flesh will never enter into the immortal state, or marriage supper of the Lamb, as will the saints; therefore the door is to be shut against them, so that they cannot enter in until the end of the thousand years, and therefore they are in outer darkness, where there is weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, during the millenium.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.24

    And thus, Messrs. Editors, you have the above copied synopsis, without note or comment, or alteration, except in separating it into numbered paragraphs for convenience, and in a few instances the style, and making it more easily understood. Yours, truly, Henry Jones.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.25

    P. S. Will not the New York Watchman, New York Luminary, and other papers, please insert the above, giving place for such corrections, or further explanations, from those whose views it may imperfectly represent, as they may wish, H. J.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.26

    New York, July 28, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.27

    Revival at three Rivers


    Dear Brother Graves,—It is with gratitude to God that I am able to turn aside from the joyful scenes around me, to inform the friends of Zion, through your valuable paper, what God hath wrought for us. Brother Wm. Miller, on the 16th of June last, commenced a course of lectures on the second advent of Christ to this world in 1843. The lectures were delivered in our meeting-house, which however would hold but a small part of the audience, it being estimated at five thousand; and notwithstanding prepossessions, prejudices, and the slanderous reports circulated about this man of God, the people gave heed to the word spoken, and seemed determined to examine the Scriptures to see if these things were so, and deep solemnity pervaded the vast assembly. The children of God were soon aroused to a sense of their dnty, sinners were seen weeping, and heard to say, “Pray for me.” The number increased, until one hundred, in an evening prayer-meeting, were seen to arise to be remembered in the prayers of the saints. Soon converts began to tell us what the Lord had done for them.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.28

    Some Deists, some Universalists, and many of the thoughtless, of both the middle aged and the youthful part of the community, have been brought to submit their hearts to God, and are now waiting for and hasting to the coming of the day of God. As to the character of the work, let me say, I have never seen a more thorough conviction of the total depravity of the heart, and the utter helplessness of the sinner, and that, if saved, it must be by the sovereign grace of God, than has been manifest in all that have given a relation of their experience.—Christian Reflector.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.29

    Letter from D. D. Johnson


    Dear Brother:—I am still endeavoring to scatter the light; for four evenings past I have been lecturing here. Brother Litch has been here before me and gave three lectures about a year since, disturbing the sleepers just enough to make them cross and snarly. Then Dowlings reply to Miller has been along this way, (especially among Universalists; enough to recommend a work to a professedly evangelical minister: a drowning man will grasp at a straw,) quieting them into sleep. O Lord awake them before thy vengeance is poured upon them. Bless the Lord, there are some strong friends of the cause. It is the part of the town where your papers come. But the rest of the town seem to be determined to sleep on, they do not want to be waked up; it is not their house or their neighbors that is on fire. The sound is afar off.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.30

    Lancaster, July 29, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.31

    Popecraft.—It is announced that the Pope has appointed a Bishop to the see of Jerusalem, under the title of Bishop of Babylon. The main cause of the movement we suspect to be jealousy of the work got up by the combined efforts of Prussia and England, in the appointment of Mr. Alexander as a Bishop of the Reformed Church. This is clearly an attempt, like that of Lorettine sisterhood in Calcutta, to thwart the success of truth, and countermine the labors of pure Christianity in every direction.—Zion’s Herald.HST August 17, 1842, page 155.32

    Martin Luther’s opinion.—I am persuaded that verily the day of Judgment is not far off, yea, will not be absent above 3000 years longer, for God’s word will decrease and be darkened for want of true shepherds and servants of God. The voice will soon be heard, “Behold the bridegroom cometh!” God neither will nor can suffer this wicked world much longer; but must strike it with his Judgments of the day of wrath, and punish the rejection of his word. (Luther died A. D. 1546.)HST August 17, 1842, page 155.33


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    BOSTON, AUGUST 17, 1842.

    Editorial Correspondence


    Dear Brother Litch:—We commenced our meeting on Arbor Hill in this city Wednesday the 10th inst. We found it very difficult to obtain an eligible situation to pitch the tent. But by the blessing of God, we at length obtained a lease of Arbor Hill, of a Christian woman of the Presbyterian church. God disposed her heart to give the use of the land for the encampment, while others refused, or asked exorbitant rents. May God’s blessing rest upon her. I should not omit to say, that a friend offered the use of a field in Greenbush, just across the river, in case we could not do better: besides these, no other place could be obtained. But now, we have friends, and places enough, for ourselves, and tent both. We give glory to God for all his goodness.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.1

    Our meetings are thronged with all classes, the rich and influential citizens are out to hear, in common with the poor, and the laboring classes, many of whom are now out of employ. Many of the learned professions are out, occasionally a minister of the gospel. But the latter class in our cities, we cannot expect to take up, or give countenance to any subject until it becomes popular with the people! But we are favored with a good hearing. The city of Albany is now acting a noble part. The authorities to whom we have made no application, have kindly proffered their influence for the peace, as also the success of our meeting, so far as a fair and candid hearing is concerned. It is our constant prayer that God may grant his special blessing to rest upon this community. I shall give a full account of the meeting hereafter.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.2

    I ought to say one word about our tent. We find by the use of it thus far, that it will answer our purpose in all respects. It is now put up in the firmest manner, and will stand any ordinary wind or storm, without difficulty or danger. It is usually seated so as to accommodate about four thousand persons. Our tent company consists of four persons. Two of these are poor men, and have regular wages. The others have thus far given their services, and large contributions, to meet the expenses of the encampment. But as we have not the means to continue in this way, if the tent is kept in motion, it must go where the people will sustain it. Our object has been to visit those places where they have had little or no advantage. In thus breaking new ground, we find it expensive, and but few friends at the time to help. The aid we get from such places comes in afterwards. We make this general statement to the friends of the cause, knowing that if it is God’s will to have the tent kept in motion, he will dispose his servants to sustain it. Yours, J. V. Himes. Yours, J. V. Himes.
    Albany. Aug. 11, 1842.
    HST August 17, 1842, page 156.3

    The Ten Virgins. After all the light which has been thrown on this parable, there are still multitudes who will persist in making the heart of the Christian the lamp; and the grace of God, the oil. The trimming of the lamp, the brightening up of the evidences of our state as Christians.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.4

    How is it they cannot see that the word of God is the lamp to our path; it is a sure word of prophecy whereunto we do well that we take heed as unto a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day-star arise? How is it, that they do not see it to be something to give them light, in reference to the coming of the Bridegroom? They can only have light on this question from God’s word.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.5

    The oil. It must be something to produce light from the lamp. The Bible is of no service unless believed. It is only faith that derives light from the Bible. The infidel has the same Bible to read as the Christian, he reads the same truths, yet it is no light to him. My neighbor may state to me a matter of fact which occurred under his own observation, yet I am none the wiser if I do not believe his testimony.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.6

    The young convert has the clear testimony of the spirit, “thy sins are forgiven,” and for the moment! rejoices with unspeakable joy. An hour afterward, doubts whether that was the voice of the spirit, and all is gross darkness and distress. Faith is the oil which feeds the flame and produces light.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.7

    The distinction, then, between the wise and foolish virgins, is not that the one is awake and the other asleep; for they all sleep together on this subject until midnight. It is not in the one awaking and the other sleeping on when the cry is made; for they all arose. It is not that one had a lamp with a wick, an ability to read and believe, for they all trimmed their lamps, and set them burning. But the distinction is, the wise had oil, and there was a steady and continued flame; the foolish took no oil, there was the meteor glare of the wick, and it went out. They just saw a glimpse of the truth and were left in darkness. They can see nothing of the Bridegroom’s coming; not because he is not coming, but because they will not believe God in preference to their own traditions.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.8

    No doubt many wise virgins are yet asleep; this doctrine is not now a test of piety, or a readiness to go in to the marriage, but the parable looks strangely, as if it will be before and when the Bridegroom comes.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.9

    Time, Times and a Half.—The following question, “How do you know that a time is a year, that times are two years, and half a time half a year?” is often proposed to us; and although it has been ably and satisfactorily settled long before the discussion in which we are engaged came up; still as it is so frequently presented by inquirers and cavillers, some of whom ought to be ashamed of the ignorance or meanness which prompts it, we shall give our authority, in brief, for believing that one time is a prophetic year, that times are two prophetic years, and half a time is half a prophetic year. Turn then to Revelation 12. The sixth verse reads, And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should keep her there a thousand two hundred and three score days. Here we have, as all agree, I believe, a view of the condition of the true church during the usurpation and corruption of popery, and the period is expressed in days. Verse 14th reads, And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Here is the same view of the condition of the church, as that given in the 6th verse, but the period is expressed in times.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.10

    The period in each case is the same, but expressed in different forms. Now we give to out readers this very simple arithmetical question. If there are 1260 days in a time, times, and a half, how many days are there in one time? Now there are but two numbers with the fraction named in the text, by which 1260 can be equally divided. One is 3 1-2 the other is 10 1-2, so that a time must consist of 360 days or 120 days. A time must be exactly equal to one or the other of these parts of the 1260 days; but as all admit that there were 360 days in the Jewish year; as this agrees exactly with still another statement of the same period—the treading under foot of the holy city 42 months, Revelation 11:2. there being just 3 1-2 years in 42 months,—and as this is the only view taken of these periods by our best writers, we think it is sufficient to settle this point. If any one can do better in the case, we shall be glad of their assistance. H.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.11

    Perfect love.—“Herein is our love made perfect; that we may have boldness in the day of judgment. Because as he is so are we in this world.” Thus wrote the beloved disciple. Yet how strong the opposition of the human heart to this same blessed doctrine of a perfection in the love of God. The usual objection is, we are such poor imperfect creatures that it is impossible to be perfect here. True, if by perfection we mean such a state as that of Adam in the garden of Eden. That will never be ours, until we see him as be is, and are changed into the same glorious image. But if the perfection of the Christian is what the above text says, “love made perfect,” produced by the indwelling of the spirit of Jesus Christ by faith, producing love to Christ, and obedience to his teachings, why may we not be thus perfect? Err we may, but sin we must not; if we do we are of the devil. For any Christian, under the plea of the weakness of human nature, to commit a known violation of God’s law is to bring himself into condemnation and a snare of the devil. He is of the devil and not of God; and his only way is to confess, penitently, confidingly and obediently his sins, and God will be faithful and just to forgive [him his] sins, and to cleanse [him] from all unrighteousness.” The mystery of godliness is, “Christ in you the hope of glory.” If Christ be not in us, we are so far from having a good hope of glory, that we are reprobates. If Christ is in us we are like him in this world, and have perfect love, and boldness in the day of judgment. We shall rejoice in the prospect of the coming of Christ to make us perfect in the resurrection of the just.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.12

    The word of God declares, “if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness:” and it is only unbelief which says he will not do it. Believe then, and be saved.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.13

    “Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” This prophecy by Daniel 12:4, of what was to take place at or about “the time of the end,” seems to have been less dwelt upon than its relative importance demands. True, it does not point out precisely the time of the end, but it seems nevertheless to be a striking fulfilment of the prophecy, which no one can mistake.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.14

    It is but four or five years since Rail-roads began to be passable for travellers in this country, and the great highway and thoroughfares of travel are already nearly filled with them. And how astonishingly has travel increased! It may cow truly be said that “many run to and fro.” Travel has been quadrupled on these routes, within the last five years, and is still rapidly increasing. If any thing could be considered a fulfilment of prophecy, surely this may be considered a signal one, not liable to be mistaken, of “the time of the end.” Time and space seem to have been annihilated, journeys are performed in one day, which formerly required two weeks.HST August 17, 1842, page 156.15

    “And knowledge shall be increased,” not only by this rapid mode of travel, and the consequent facilities of communication between man and man, but by various other means.—“Man has sought out many inventions,” and these inventions have served to increase knowledge. The improvements in printing, for instance, have been surprisingly great, while those in innumerable other arts have been scarcely less. D.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.1

    Literary Notices


    american views of christ’s second advent

    Consisting mostly of lectures, delivered before late Conventions, in the cities of Boston, Lowell and New York, vindicating Christ’s second coming to judgment, at hand, without fixing the time, without a previous millennium, or return of the Jews to Palestine, selected, and in part given by Henry Jones, author of Principles of interpreting the prophecies,—Scriptures Searched, and Short Method against Universalism. Saxton & Mills, New York, 205 Broadway.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.2

    The above is the title of a work now just issuing from the press, of 250 pp. 8 Vo. to be sold at 75 cents neatly bound, and at 50 cents in printed paper covers. Our readers, who have read the first and second reports of our Second Advent Conferences, have already seen the principal long articles of this new book; and from the knowledge we have of its other articles, some of them from the Signs of the Times, we doubt not it will be a good help in our cause.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.3

    Youth’s Guide. This Sabbath School paper, the prospectus of which appeared in our paper some weeks since, is now commenced, and the first No. is now before us. It is edited and published by Elder E. N. Harris, Boston, and Portsmouth, weekly, $1 a year in advance.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.4

    So far as we have had time to examine the work, we are pleased with the plan of the paper and the matter it contains: and commend it to the patronage of Sabbath schools, and the friends of youth generally. Orders addressed to the editor either at Portsmouth or Boston.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.5

    Short Articles. Our correspondents who write for the Signs of the Times should bear in remembrance that we have a great and rapidly increasing number of friends who wish to say something on this great question. To do so through our columns, they must be short. Let all who write study brevity, if they wish to be heard.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.6

    Miller’s Chronology. We have numerous questions in reference to Mr. Miller’s chronology, especially why he allows only five years for Jehoram’s reign, when the Bible says he reigned eight years. The answer is, he began foreign in the reign of his father, Jehoshaphat and reigned three years with him, and five years alone. Those who have written long articles on this “error” of Mr. M., will do well if they will study their Bibles a little more, Before they are quite so confident.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.7

    Moses Stuart:—This respected and venerable Professor, at Andover, has just issued a work entitled “Hints on Prophecy.” His influence as a teacher in Israel is immense, especially among the Orthodox ministers and churches in New England. We look, therefore, upon the work and its influence with the deepest interest. It will have a tremendous influence on the final destiny of thousands.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.8

    From a careful examination of the work, we are fully persuaded that his positions, and his expositions are unsound and unscriptural, and consequently dangerous. We shall therefore publish, and scatter as widely as possible a remedy for this opiate on the public conscience. We have two able reviews. One by William Miller, and one, by bro. Bliss of Hartford, Ct. We shall get them out as soon as possible; also one from H. D. Ward, for our next number.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.9

    Concord Second Advent Meeting


    The meeting at Concord was, in some respects, an experiment. Our great tabernacle, (which is an hundred and twenty feet in diameter, and about fifty feet high in “the centre, from which it slopes like a cone to about seven feet at the circumference) we set up and occupied at Concord for the first time. The place selected for its location, a bleak hill just in rear of the state-house, was found to be altogether unsuitable; for a violent gale coming on an hour or two after it was erected, the posts to which the braces were attached, not being set properly, drew out of the ground, and the tent was very gently prostrated: no damage but the breaking of the masts was sustained. The services had not commenced, and before the strength of the gale was felt, every thing was snugly sheltered; and as we had got a good lesson about locating our tent, at a small price, and at the best time. It could have come, we praised the Lord and felt that all was right. The mast was soon repaired, and our camp was removed to a valley a few rods from the first location. We all felt that the valley was the right place for us, though we hardly knew how to spare the time it required to move: happy will it be for those who get right while they have time.—Our tent was got up originally for the purpose of holding meetings in or near our cities or large towns, where no suitable place could be obtained to preach our views on the second advent. This was the first meeting we had ever held of this character, and we knew enough of these communities to know that they all contain ignorance and vice, infidelity, and bigotry, pride, worldly-mindedness and fanaticism enough to furnish a troublesome combination. We knew also that the army of opposers to our views were invariably supplied from these sources, and we anticipated such an expression of regard as became the Concord division of this complex, though in such a case, united host. However, our reception was marked only by the usual variety of sincere affection, curiosity, indifference, and contempt—the affection we shalll remember, and God will reward it; the contempt is hardly worth mentioning, for there was much less than we anticipated; a few who showed a disposition to trouble us were taken in hand by the citizens without any request on our part; so our company of worshippers sat in peace in the great tent, or their smaller one, as the exercises might be, with none to molest or make afraid.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.10

    The object of our mission, we think, has been as fully accomplished as could have been expected. Concord has heard, and we trust profited by the message; the heralds of the cross, with more or less of their flocks from a considerable portion of the state, came to hear; and with clearer light and more inspiring hopes, and more stirring motives, they have gone forth among the mountains and valleys, the farms and factories which diversify the land to declare it.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.11

    In the visits made by the writer to several places after the close of this meeting, he witnessed, or heard of the most gratifying results.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.12

    The introductory services were to have commenced on Wednesday, August 3rd, at 5 P. M. with a sermon by brother Fitch; but on account of the prostration and removal of the tent, no meeting was held in it till Thursday. The preaching was of a highly impressive and practical character, and we had the satisfaction of listening to an unusually large number of ministering brethren. I heard no statement of the number converted, though there were several cases which came to my knowledge, but the work in the church, its ministers and members, appeared to be deep and glorious. The heavy rain which commenced on Saturday evening, and continued through the night and a part of the Sabbath, and which was thought by some of our friends in the town must be very detrimental to the meeting, instead of that, by leading to those exercises with which God has connected a peculiar blessing, made it a season of holy refreshing. Two of our lecturers were invited to supply the pulpit of the Methodist church, on the Sabbath, with whom on account of my health, and the weather, I united in the services of the day. It being thought best to close on Monday, notice was accordingly given—a very large congregation assembled, who listened to the very appropriate and solemn discourses and remarks from the stand with the most profound attention. The services closed about 4 o’clock, P. M. our tabernacle was taken down, and our friends from a distance were soon on their way home.—A meeting for the evening, was appointed in the Methodist church, at which the writer was not present, having left with a company of our Barnstead friends, who kindly offered a conveyance to Gilmanton, where we had an appointment, to make arrangements for a camp-meeting.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.13

    I have been told by those who were present, that the evening meeting was one of special interest. We have had some second advent meetings which were seasons of great joy; others have been very agreeable and pleasant. The Concord meeting has been a profitable one, and on the whole, as pleasant as we anticipated.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.14

    gilmanton meeting


    On Tuesday, brother L. French of Barnstead, took me to Gilmanton. We found a good number of brethren from the surrounding towns; but instead of a meeting to make arrangements for the camp-meeting, an appointment had been given out for a lecture, which I tried to supply, by speaking on “the signs of the times;” brother Cole being quite exhausted by his labors and ride from Lowell. This is the first lecture I have attempted since the Bangor meeting. After the lecture we visited one of the groves selected for the camp-meeting, and the next morning made arrangements to have all things in readiness at the time appointed; and the prospects with reference to the meeting I think very encouraging. On Wednesday I rode with brother Fitch to Pittsfield, and lectured in brother Cilley’s church on Thursday eve. to a very attentive congregation. Took the stage to Dover on Friday, where I had been invited to spend the Sabbath. Lectured in the forenoon on Daniel 12:6, 7, and in the afternoon, on the vision of the 8th chapter. The large Merhodist church was well filled, and all were attentive. A circumstance which added to the interest was the baptism of a number of persons who were converted under Mr. Miller’s labors in the place some time ago. Though hardly strong enough to attempt such a day’s work, it was a very pleasant day to rue; the sacramental season was truly a feast. In all these places I have been received with the warmest affection. Great interest to hear every where prevails, and God is blessing our labors. I think I see in all that relates to our work the hand of God, and if we can but know that he is with us it is enough. A. Hale.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.15

    Ipswich, August 10th.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.16

    Castine Campmeeting. We are authorized to say that there will be tents for boarding on the ground, at two dollars per week.HST August 17, 1842, page 157.17

    Letter to Messrs Norris and Lovell


    In glancing over the Olive Branch of July 23 we noticed your address to Rev. J.V. Himes. In this article you say, “We have had letters from misguided sisters, hoodwinked and blinded by Miller, Himes & Co. Now we are not surprised at the information that you really have received letters from some of the sisters, neither are we astonished at the fact you “have not answered a word.” We suppose that the “letters” here alluded to, were on the subject of the second advent or the end of the world. We would do you justice by saying that you are not the only Clergymen who have found it convenient to be silent when we have addressed them on these important subjects, although they will converse with a great deal of loquacity when we address them on other subjects, such as Politics (which is quite out of our sphere) Railroads, Novels, etc. But if we ask them to explain to us certain portions of the scriptures, they tell us that the prophecies are not to be understood by us, that we are not to give heed to them, and that we are left in the dark with regard to their fulfilment, etc. Similar to this was probably the language of some of the people before the first advent of Christ, while others were looking and waiting for the promised Messiah; and when their eyes had seen his salvation they departed in peace: again, if we ask these Clergymen to bring Bible authority to show us that Daniel’s 2300 days will not end next year, they are silent. But we can excuse them. We attribute the cause of their silence in these cases, to a different motive than that of mere neglect, or that of contempt. We at once come to the conclusion that they have strong reason in their own minds why they should wish to evade our questions or remain silent. You tell us that “according to the scriptures our world must yet exist thousands of years, or else there is not one word of truth in the Bible.” It seems by this assertion that you have either dared to penetrate “the arcana of the great Jehovah, and wickedly published his hidden mysteries all abroad,” or else that this assertion is “fiction given for the purpose of instruction.” We are inclined to suppose the latter. “Knowing this first that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation,” “and for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie.” “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned unto fables.” “Giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in hypocrisy.” “False accusers, incontinent, fierce, dispisers of those that are good.” “So do these resist the truth” and “wrest as they do the other scriptures unto their own destruction.” Now as this scripture is fulfilled this day in our ears and before our eyes, it is conclusive evidence in our minds that we are living in the very last days. But that there will be faith on earth when the Son of Man shall come we have no doubt, for it is written, “But ye brethren are not in darkness that that day should overtake you as a thief.” The “wise shall understand,” and they that are ready will go in with Him to the marriage supper of the Lamb. Furthermore you say that “God Almighty has mercifully promised that the Jews shall be converted and return to their own land, that all nations shall be converted to Christ before the end.” What a happy time this must be: All converted to God “in this present evil world.” Even Christ himself never taught us on this fashion; and the inspired apostle has said “yea and all that live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution,” “and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingkom of God.” How is it to happen at this happy period when all are to be converted to God? By whom are the godly to be persecuted? Will they pursecute each other? We had supposed until now that the Tares and the Wheat would grow together until the harvest, and that “the harvest is the end of the world.” Christ has said “In the world ye have tribulation.” “My kingdom is not of this world.”—“And the kingdom shall not be left to other people.” “Suppose ye,” said the Savior, “that I am come to send peace on the earth. I tell you nay, but rather division. For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided three against two, and two against three.” “Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.” These passages of scripture to our unenlightened mind do not look much like a “glorious and long contined time” of peace “before the end.” It seems that you have had the misfortune to have letters sent you by “misguided sisters, hoodwinked and blinded by Miller, Himes and Co.” Have you nothing worse than this to say about us? Is this all? We do really rejoice that we are counted worthy to have our names recorded with the names of those servants of God. We had rather be under the influence of Miller, Himes and Co’s. moonshine, and have the scriptures explained to us according to the tradition of the apostles and prophets, than to sit on thrones and judge nations on the enchanted ground under the dark shades of the Olive Branch, listening to the syren song of “fiction,” My Lord delayeth his coming yet for thousands of years. No, we cannot listen to such songs. One of the “Sisters.”HST August 17, 1842, page 158.1

    Aug. 3, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.2

    Letter from Levi P. Adams Jr


    Dear Brother Himes,—I hasten to inform you what the Lord is doing in this province through the instrumentality of second advent preaching.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.3

    Brother Litch came to Stanstead the last of May and delivered a course of lectures in the union chapel, where the Lord poured out his Spirit in a wonderful manner, in reviving the lukewarm, and reclaiming backsliders, and convicting and converting sinners; and is still carrying on his work in that place. After lecturing in various places along the frontier, brother Litch attended a campmeeting in Hatley, which broke down opposition, convinced the gainsayer, and paved the way for a glorious reformation, which like a rushing tornado has taken almost every thing in its course.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.4

    A brother informed me that as near as they could calculate, there were five hundred hopeful conversions on the eastside of the lake as fruits of Second Advent meetings in that place, and the work is still going on with almost unequaled rapidity.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.5

    Brother Litch came from H—to Bolton and attended campmeeting near the west shore of Magog lake in Bolton, where a great number were hopefully converted. It was judged that on Sunday over three hundred came to the altar as anxious souls.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.6

    There is a spirit of conviction on the minds of the people in this place, that I never saw equaled before.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.7

    The most of the church in this place are rejoicing in the expectation that Christ is coming in a few brief months to take his weary bride home, and sinners are trembling under the mighty power of God and crying for mercy. Infidels and unbelievers of every class are almost silent, and their hearts failing them for fear of those things that are coming upon the earth.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.8

    The cry is from Canada, “come over and help us.” Dear brethren from the south, if it be possible send some efficient lecturer to go still further north. The cry from Shefford and the adjoining towns is for light on this subject; and even from Montreal. I saw a man from Montreal a few days since; he says, will the preachers of the second advent leave us without warning on this subject? O brethren what is to be done for a sleeping world? May God call, qualify and send out more into his vineyard to sound the alarm, the awful midnight cry, “behold the Bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him.”HST August 17, 1842, page 158.9

    I subscribe myself your brother in the gospel of Christ and a believer in the midnight cry. Bolton, L. C. July 27, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.10

    Oriental Scenes


    Extract of a Letter.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.11

    Permit me, sir, at the same time to transcribe a few lines from “A Narrative of a Journey from Herant to Owenburgh, on the Caspian, in 1840,” by Captain Sir Richmond Shakspeare, a British officer of high standing, both as to mental and moral qualifications. It may tend to show, that, as the Almighty has left the world without excuse as to the knowledge of the means requisite for the saving of their souls, so he has been pleased to intimate not only to us who have his blessed word to assist and guide us into all truth, what must shortly come to pass, but in this instance has caused the same truth to be revealed to a most benighted part of the human family; and had we an opportunity of knowing, we should no doubt discover that the world universally is expecting some stupendous event to take place, and that it is even at the doors.HST August 17, 1842, page 158.12

    He goes on to say in his Narrative—“From Dusht Houz to Arbosue we marched a distance of 125 1-2 miles, along the alluvial soil near the river Oxus. There were frequently several khails of Turcomans in sight in all directions, but the only fixed village is old Ooregunge, which is 109 miles from Khyra. It is on the site of the ancient city, which is said to have existed in the time of the fire-worshippers. For many years it has been altogether deserted, the river having changed its course. A prophecy has descended from generation to generation, that in the latter days Ooregunge shall again be inhabited; and within the last five years the river has returned to this side, and filled the bed of a considerable stream, from which canals have been cut for irrigation; and people are fast collecting, there being now about 1000 families resident there, and a considerable market twice a week. I tell the Turcomans that, the sooner they repent of their slave dealing and other sins, the better, for the fulfilment of the prophecy evidently approaches.”HST August 17, 1842, page 158.13

    It will afford me great pleasure should the above extract afford you any gratification. I am, sir, yours most sincerely, Francis Scoffin. Philadelphia, Aug. 2, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.1

    Extract of a letter from C. Morley


    I find that humble, devoted Christians readily embrace the doctrine of the Second Advent nigh, while the worldly-minded professors of religion, Universalists, Infidels, etc. treat the subject with scorn. Many of the clergy, being only weathercocks to show the current of popular opinion, oppose it, and when hardpushed, they take ground with the Universalist that Christ’s Second Advent was at the destruction of Jerusalem. I called yesterday on the pastor of a Dutch Reformed Church at Schodack, to whom, a few weeks since, I sold Fleming’s Midnight Cry. I inquired how he liked it. He replied that it was a silly, nonsensical work, and that he knew that Christ would not come next year, and that if I or any other advocate of this doctrine should come into his parish after 1843, we would be be mobbed, and he himself would assist. I found him sitting under a tree in his yard, reading Zanoni, Bulwer’s late novel. Here is a specimen of some of the clerical scoffers.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.2

    Kinderhook, July 22, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.3



    Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame.”—Jude.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.4

    Rev. J. V. Himes.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.5

    This gentleman is quite sore under our remarks. We cannot help it: for the interests of truth and righteousness compe! us to be plain with him. He vainly promised instead of preaching it, to show up the wickedness and folly of the Miller humbug, if we would give him Scripture authority for the use of fiction for the purposes of instruction. We did it amply, with Scripture examples, and further, referred him to the account also of some love matters, related in the same good book. As Millerism was such a profitable humbug to him, he kept silent. He finally, however, broke silence, by a mere assertion, without the semblance of an argument, from Jacobs’ Luminary, complimenting said Jacobs as a disciple and believer in Miller’s fooleries. Now these noble brothers in the kingdom of Miller’s moonshine, talk of Fiction! Himes, go to the glass And be ashamed of the man you look in the face. A more groundless, foolish and absurd lie, never was preached or written, than the one you are parrot-like repeating after Miller, that the world will come to an end next year. Fool-hardy and infidel-like, giving God Almighty the lie, who has mercifully promised that the Jews shall be converted and return to their own land; that all nations shall be converted to Christ before the end; that a glorious and long continued time shall come when Nations shall learn war no more; all knowing the Lord from the least to the greatest Christ himself solemnly assuring us that none but the Father Almighty knows the time of the end of the world, and yet the illiterate and blundering half crazy Miller and Joshua V. Himes, have penetrated the arcana of the great Jehovah, and wickedly published his hidden mysteries all abroad. O knavery! O hypocrisy!!! We blush to think that one professing to be a Christian minister can thus blaspheme God and mock man. Alas, Elder Himes, we know no language of reproof half severe enough to meet your case. How can you walk through the city and look honest men in the face? If you know anything, you know that according to the Scriptures our world must exist thousands of years, or else there is not one word of truth in the Bible. O Elder Himes, repent of this your great wickedness before God and man, and pray God to spare you those terrible plagues he has threatened to such as add to his holy word. We have had letters from misguided sisters, hood-winked and blinded by Miller, Himes &. Co., expressing honest sorrow that we trifle with your fooleries, as though by so doing we lacked reverence for divine truth. We have not answered a word, but pitied the unfortunate dupes of your idle croaking.—But we now aim our blows at the great impostor and his right hand supporter. What a Heaven-daring sin it is for a weak man thus to trifle with the most solemn interests of eternity, and tamper with the weak and credulous for paltry gain, for a most unenviable distinction. Remember, Elder Himes, that though you may practice successfully for a time, on a confiding community, yet a day of retribution will come, and God says he that scorneth, alone shall bear it.—And what but the most sovereign contempt of God’s word can make a man fly in its face and the face of its Divine Author, and in the place of God’s truth to insult an honest and trusting community with the worse than idle, the blasphemous dreams of Miller? Abner Kneeland was imprisoned and punished for blasphemy. Surely Miller and Himes are bringing the Bible into much greater disrepute. How will they be despised by all honest men, numbered, if known at all in history, with the fanatics and impostors of the past. It is unthankful business to cross the track of the fanatic or the impostor, for they always pretend to be very sanctified, and address even the most religious feelings of human nature. We will not, however, shrink from the task, and we are persuaded that the present and future generations will thank us.—If not, the day of eternity will bear record to the correctness of our course. Millerism is a lie; sustained by the right hand of falsehood! O ye Christians, beware of its delusions; it is a smoke from the deep, coming out of the bottomless pit—but God will not long suffer it to deceive his elect. Good men shall escape its Egyptian darkness.—Olive Branch.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.6

    As the only answer we shall give to the above, we present our readers the following from the New York Luminary.—Eds.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.7

    rev. J. V. Himes.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.8

    The editor of the Olive Branch has an article in his last week’s number with the above caption, in which he pursues this worthy brother with the perfect raving of a madman, and “without the semblance of an argument.” The whole article verily reminded us of the rage of the demons that we have an account of in the 8th chapter of Matthew 28th and 31st verses. Bro. Himes is a strenuous advocate for the doctrine of the second advent of our Savior at hand, which doctrine is now agitating almost the entire world. If he is promulgating error, how can the editor of the Olive Branch subserve the cause of God better than by making it appear, and exposing it before the world? Shall we look to him for a little truth to support one single position he has taken in this article? Alas! it is to be feared we shall look in vain. Surely, the man that can bring forward Scripture to defend novel reading, can bring some Scripture, if he has it, to prove that those servants of the Most High who are looking for the appearing of the “Son of Man in the clouds of heaven” are dealing in “fooleries”—that they are “illiterate, blundering, crazy, wicked dupes,” “blasphemers,” “liars,” “infidels,” and many other such like terms which he uses. Now read the 10th and 13th verses inclusive, of the epistle of Jude, and see if a Christian community can any longer doubt the position which this editor occupies. We give one short extract relative to ourself, to show how utterly regardless of truth he is.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.9

    “He (J. V. Himes,) finally, however, broke silence by a mere assertion, without the semblance of an argument, from Jacobs’ Luminary, complimenting said Jacobs as a disciple and believer in Miller’s fooleries.”HST August 17, 1842, page 159.10

    Now here is the compliment from Bro. Himes, and the whole of it:HST August 17, 1842, page 159.11

    “Bro. Jacobs is a believer in the advent nigh, and will speak out boldly on the question also.”HST August 17, 1842, page 159.12

    And there are hundreds of other preachers of the gospel, of the various denominations that are doing the same, without any reference to the doctrine that it will come in 1843. The fartherest that we have ever remarked about the time is, that it was our hope and prayer that it might be so. Were the doctrines of the Bible generally believed, many of the readers of the Olive Branch would manifest their uneasiness by writing to its editor, begging him to desist from such unholy proceedings. While Bro. N. gives such evidence that he does not “love the appearing of our Lord and Savior,” we hope and pray, for the sake of his own soul, that he will take to himself some of the caution he gratuitously gives to Bro. Himes—Luminary.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.13

    Revival in Canada.—During our recent visit to the province, we attended a second advent camp meeting in Hatley Canada, at which the power of God was displayed in the conversion of souls.—Although all Christians could not unite in advocating the second advent doctrine, as there propagated, still, all seemed willing to lend a helping hand to the cause of God, and ready to rejoice at the progress of the work. About 2300 were in attendance on the Sabbath, and a number found peace in believing. The writer, also, in company with some of the ministers of the Stanstead Q. M. held two protracted meetings, in both of which God was pleased to pour out his spirit and influence the stranger to become acquainted with him. A general attention to the eternal interest of the soul seems at present to prevail in the Eastern Township, of Canada.—Morning Star. a. k. m.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.14

    An Unexpected Scene.—On Wennesday evening a most marvellous scene occurred at the Assembly Building, corner of Tenth and Chestnut streets, which deserves puplic notice. Elder Adams, the great lion and apostle of Joe Smith’s cohorts, delivered a discourse in favor of the Latter Day Saints. At the latter part of his discourse he called out with Stentorian lungs, “where now is the celebrated Dr. West? He knew I was coming to Philadelphia. Why does he not appear and vindicate Orthodoxy, if in his power?” At this moment a portly figure started up and electrified the audience by stating, “Ladies and gentlemen, the person who addressed you professes to speak by inspiration, but had he possessed what he professes, he would have known that Dr. West is present, and now challenges him to prove the truth of his monstrosities before this enlightened community”.HST August 17, 1842, page 159.15

    Letter from F. T. Albee


    Dear Brother Himes.—Allow me to say through the “Signs of the Times” that the glorious truths of the advent near, are beginning to move the minds of many to a serious inquiry, even in these regions.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.1

    The books I had given me for distribution, while in Portland, are all gone, and are producing their desired effect upon the readers.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.2

    Already many have come out firmly upon ‘43, and with fullness of joy, and looking for the Glorious Appearing.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.3

    Others who had long slumbered upon the fabled theory of a terrestrial Millenium, have given up this false dream, and are now looking for their promised rest, with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, when Macphela’s tomb shall yield her dead, in the glorious resurrection, with immortality, and eternal life.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.4

    Since my return I have in most cases in my preaching endeavored to set forth before before my hearers, that the kingdom of God is at hand. I have had applications from different sources to lecture in different places, which I have complied with, and found crowded and attentive auditories.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.5

    Applications, however, are becoming so numerous, at this time, that I find myself unable to comply with all. Can you send us help?HST August 17, 1842, page 160.6

    I am expecting that some of my brethren in the ministry will soon wake up in these regions and give the midnight cry.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.7

    Some tell me already “that their sleep breaks from them.”HST August 17, 1842, page 160.8

    Last Sabbath I rode about 8 miles, to an appointment, got drenching wet, and though the inhabitants were scattering, and the rain poured down unceasingly, still I found a large concourse of attentive people, to whom I endeavored to expound the book of Daniel. Northfield, Me.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.9



    BOSTON, AUG. 17, 1842.

    Taunton Campmeeting The campmeeting before advertised for Dighton, Sept. 6, will be held in Taunton, near Myrick’s Depot, on the Taunton and New Bedford Rail Road. Particulars next week.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.10

    To Our Correspondents.—Such have been our engagements at public meetings of late, we have not been able to pay that attention to them that we could wish. We hope soon to make arrangements to secure full attention to all other matters pertaining to the interests of the cause, in our absence.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.11

    Marlboro’ Bathing Rooms. We would say to our friends, that the luxurious and healthful blessing of warm, cold, vapor and shower baths, may be [original illegible] of Mr. Blodgett, in the rear of 281 Washington St. Open every day and evening, (Sundays excepted) from sunrise till 10 o’clock at night. Single bath 25 cents. Female attendants in wailing to attend on ladies.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.12

    To Correspondents. We have received a critical and candid letter from Dr. Pond of the Bangor Theological Institution, the contents of which shall be given to our readers, with our remarks, forthwith.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.13

    A Methodist Camp-Meeting is to be held on the ground where the Second Advent Camp-Meeting was held a few weeks since, in East Kingston, N. H. to commence Sept. 5th.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.14

    From an old Friend


    My good friend Mr. Himes,
    And the “Signs of the Times”
    May be found in Devonshire Street,
    And it is with delight
    That I send him this mite,
    To help him fill out his good sheet.
    HST August 17, 1842, page 160.15

    Second Advent Camp-Meeting


    at chicopee, mass.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.16

    This meeting will commence on Thursday, 25th of August inst. Arrangements have been made for securing the land, and also board and lodging of suitable quality, at a fair price, provided for a company from 250 to 1000, to be had upon the ground. The village near will also accommodate probably all those who may attend. All persons coming on the rail-roads will be accommodated with a conveyance, from the temporary depot to be errected at the camp-ground, at a price not exceeding 12 1-2 cents. The Committee feel confident that all persons coming from the neighboring towns or from a distance will be as well accommodated, as at any similar meeting heretofore held.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.17

    H. MUNGER,
    N. BRANCH, Jr.
    R. E. LADD,
    M. PENDLETON, Committee.
    Chicopee Falls, Aug. 5, 1842.
    HST August 17, 1842, page 160.18

    A Second advent camp meeting will be held at Upper Gilmanton, N. H


    Providence permitting, to commence Aug. 25, at 5 o’clock P. M. on the farm of Mr. Matthias Kimball, about one mile north of the factory village.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.19

    The meeting will be held in a pleasant grove which has been laid out for the accommodation of about 40 tents. It will be continued about one week. The adjoining land has been secured so that no person will be allowed to set up victualing, or other stands, without the approbation of the Committee of arrangements.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.20

    Provision has also been made to accommodate visitors, who may not provide for themselves, with board and horse-keeping at a reasonable price on the ground. And all who love the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ are respectfully invited to be present, and participate in the exercises of the meeting.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.21

    All our friends who can, are requested to prepare themselves with TENTS, and to have them on the ground before the hour for commencing services.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.22

    T Cole,HST August 17, 1842, page 160.23

    A. Hale, General Com.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.24

    Second Advent Conferences


    and lectures on the second coming of christ

    Br. Calvin French will give a course of lectures at the following places, at each of which a Conference of believers in the personal appearing of our lord jesus christ will be held, to continue four or more days.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.25

    1st Conference will be held at Guilford, N. H. to commence on Wednesday, Aug. 10 at 10 o’clock A. M.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.26

    2nd In North Springfield, Vt. on Thursday, Aug. 18, at 10 o’clock A, M. in the Christian Chapel, lectures commence the evening previous at each place.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.27

    3rd At Stillwater, N. Y. Saratoga Co. in the West Baptist Meeting House on Monday, Aug. 29th, at 10 o’clock A. M.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.28

    4th, With elder Isaac Wescotts Society in Stillwater, on Monday, Sept. 5th, at 10 o’clock A. M.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.29

    Lectures will commence at the last two places on Saturday eve. previons, at 7 o’clock.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.30

    N. B. ALL in the regions where our Conferences are held who love the appearing of our Lord, are invited to attend. Aug. 3d, 1842.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.31

    Second Advent Camp-Meeting


    AT CASTINE, ME.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.32

    There will be a Second Advent camp-meeting at Castine, Me. Providence permitting, to commence Tuesday, Sept. 6th, on the farm of Mr. Charles Perkins. The steam boats will leave passengers within about three miles of the meeting. Brother A. Bridges of Newport superintends the arrangements. There will be Second Advent Conferences held at the following places as follows, viz; at Prospect, Me. Sept. 14. At Atkinson, Me. Sept. 21st. And at Exeter, Me. Sept 28th.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.33

    A. Bridges,
    J. Daman,
    S. H. Horne,
    A. Hale,
    Y. Higgins,
    J. W. Atkins,
    J. Hamilton, Com


    No Authorcode

    Amount brought over from June 29th $ 1262,61 Friend in Connecticut “ 50,00 Irene Bullard “ 10,00 Jewelry and Watches at camp-meeting “ 92,38 Thos. F. Barry “ 5,00 Jasper Hazen “ 7,50 Dr. B. P. Randall “ 100,00 S. E. Brown “ 15,00 Joseph Currier “ 5,00 Joseph Bates “ 5,00 James Libby “ 20,00 Tisdale Lincoln “ 100,00 John Evans “ 10,00 S. F. Tolls “ 6,00 Hannah Jones “ 25,00 James M. Philips “ 20,00 J. S. White “ 5,00 Chilian Wines “ 5,00 Richard Walker “ 5,00 Timothy Newell “ 10,00 Josiah Vose Jr. “ 3,00 Friends from Lowell “ 4,75 Friend “ 2,00 Elizabeth B. Rugg “ 5,00 Charlotte Watkins “ 5,00 Friend in Newburyport “ 5,00 David Harriman “ 5,00 $ 1808,24 Amount of money expended for gratuitous distribution of books $1830,61 Amt. due the committee $22,37



    Received up to Aug. 13. From P. M. Lynchburg, Va., Lempden, N. H. Fairhaven, Mass. Ware’s Bridge, N. H. Strafford, Vt. Berlin, Ct. Three Rivers, Mass. Bridgwater, Vt. West Charlton, N. Y. Munroe, Me. Saco, Me. Kennebunk, Me. S. Glastenbury, Ct. Chaplin, Ct. Dover, N. H. Lowell, Mass. East Newport, Me. Dexter, Me. West Newfield, Me. Ashland, Ohio, Concord. N. H. Simansville, Vt. Weston, Vt. Bow, N. H. West Hartford, Vt. Lancaster, Mass. Three Rivers, Mass, Suncook, N. H.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.34

    From H. Patten & Co. Richard Walker, Thos. Lee, David Harriman, Amos Fox, Mr. Deverell, S. Palmer, H. P. Stebbins, Mary A. Grimes, James B. Ransom, Samuel Lock, Joseph Turner, R. T. Hancock, Justus Harlow, M. M. George, Ezekiel McLoud, Joel Spaulding, D. Dushman, Martin F. Eldridge, N. Alger, Moses C. Philbrook, U. Thompson, Thomas Sanford, F. T. Albee, A. Bridges, H. G. Carly, Israel Taft, C. E. Wiggin, Nancy Pratt, H. D. Ward, 2 com., A. Vallerchamp.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.35

    Books Sent


    One bundle to H. Patton & Co. Utica, N. Y. One to Rev. Thomas M. Preble, and one to D. Marshall, both to Nashua, N. H. One to Amos Fox, Derby Line, Vt. One to C. S. Brown, Concord, N. H. Two bundles to Joseph Bates, Fairhaven, Mass. One to Frederick Bendon, Milford, N. H. One to James W. Russell, Newburyport, Mass.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.36

    Signs of the Times


    It published weekly, at No. 14 Devonshire Street, Boston, by JOSHUA V. HIMES, to whom all letters and communication must be addressed.HST August 17, 1842, page 160.37

    Terms,—One Dollar per Volume of 24 Nos. (6 months)HST August 17, 1842, page 160.38

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